NA Agnostica.
Secular Recovering Addicts in tune with Freethinkers, Agnostics and Atheists.
A website to question your Group Think and a node to the Secular Network.
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The International Convention of Secular A.A.
is coming October 29TH – 30TH. There will be tons of workshops, speakers and fun.
Welcome to the Jungle
The Moving 1st Day Welcome into a 12 Step Fellowship
“knowing you are not alone”
Atheists.
Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
A person who lacks belief in a god or gods. People who use this definition categorize atheists as either negative (or implicit or weak) atheists or positive (or explicit or strong) atheists. Negative atheists, while they don’t believe in a god, do not positively assert that no gods exist. Positive atheists, however, do.
2.) A person who believes that no god or gods exist
Agnostics.
“It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe.”Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe. Consequently, agnosticism puts aside not only the greater part of popular theology, but also the greater part of anti-theology.
— Thomas Henry Huxley
or …Someone who finds his life meaningful enough to pursue; without admitting or dismissing a God, and tolerant enough to respect either ways as a possible answer.
Believer: The great unicorn is omnipotent
Atheist: There is no a great unicorn.
Agnostic: naah, it doesn’t matter.
Freethinker : Arr your all right or maybe all wrong
Freethinkers.
Freethought (or “free thought”) is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma. According to the Oxford English Dictionary , a freethinker is ‘a person who forms their own ideas and opinions rather than accepting those of other people, especially in religious teaching.’ In some contemporary thought in particular, freethought is strongly tied with rejection of traditional social or religious belief systems. The cognitive application of freethought is known as “freethinking”, and practitioners of freethought are known as “freethinkers”. Modern freethinkers consider freethought as a natural freedom of all negative and illusive thoughts acquired from the society.
Overdose deaths soared to a record 107,622 last year in USA
1300 a year in Au
6200 deaths Canada
1600 Scotland
700 Pakistanis die daily due to drug-related issues (2015)
with seven million people are addicted to drugs. 255,000 deaths a year !
5 million Addicts in Iran
4,561 people died from drug poisoning UK & Wales
The reality of ODs last year throughout the world
and the shock and grieving we all know too intimately.
Most Addicts that come into recovery are atheists or nihilist agnostics… You… do not have to conform to any magical thinking to be a member of our fellowship. This website is full of irreverent fun and layers and layers of information which you can relax and listen to through YouTube .
With over 10,000 hits we get a year we know from our stats that if just one person has found the information which keeps them clean for a day the effort to make this website was worth it….an acquiescent recovering addict.
Whats going on in a meeting?
Thoughts on 12 steps
Ending the forcing of a higher power submission by the Stockholm Syndrome or Trauma Bonding
Podcasts, Story's, History
AA has had a revolution in secular meetings all over the world England, France, USA and Australia.
From its very beginning an Atheists helped create AA even the idea of “higher power” is thanks to Jim Burwell. Yes a militant agnostic came up with the concept of ” a Higher Power” one can imagine the smirk on his face.His story…
Narcotics Anonymous is an adaption of AA and the literature shows an different era of writing style than the Christian revivalists of the Oxford group AA co-founders of the 1930’s.
Narcotics Anonymous is a fellowship based on principles Honesty, Openness and Willingness, not a “need to believe” doctrinal cult.
A 2012 poll by Win-Gallup International found that 48% of Australians claimed no religion; 37% were religious; 10% declared themselves “convinced atheists”. Australia placed in the bottom 14 for religiosity and in the top 11 for atheism!
60% of Australians have no belief or about 2 out of 3 people identify with us.
Our position is not of non belief or non faith.
But just lack of evidence of Gods against proof that your just another Primate.
Generally we do not except the existence of a made up higher power of your understanding exists or is responsible for recovery.
We understand that mantras/prayers and mediation calm and distract the obsessive mind but don’t except this as divine intervention.
For us that we do not believe in invisible spirits guiding our lives nor do we have too under the principles of narcotics anonymous.We are finding it very annoying that fundamentalists who have developed these positions from AA meetings are now with certain daily reflections bringing these dogmatic positions “Get God or Get the Gap”.
“Must find God “or “have a higher power” to recover into meetings.
We don’t care or want to change or question others beliefs we just want to recover without conceited comments, lectures or interference that our program is wrong from whom have been influenced by NA god squad or their own revelation.
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3 : The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using.
Our Ozzie Jim’s thoughts on God…
As Our Literature States:
We each find a way to surrender, but that does not mean we all come to believe in God. Many of our members have been clean for years as atheists. For some of us, coming to believe that NA can accommodate our atheism has itself been a leap of faith. We are welcome no matter what we believe. NA has no opinion on how our members define or practice spirituality. Our individual challenge is to find a definition of spirituality that makes sense to us. By listening carefully and with an open mind to a range of members’ opinions and experiences, we form our own understanding that we can use in our own recovery.